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 作者  Grayhawk (灰鷹爵士)                                    看板  Gossiping 
 標題  Re: [問卦] 有沒有朱學恆翻魔戒前在幹嘛的八卦?                           
 時間  Fri Dec 21 12:06:28 2012                                               
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※ 引述《Starwindd (原PO大叔)》之銘言：
: 幫他說一下話吧，其實十幾年前的他真的是很熱血的。那個年代台灣
: 還沒有什麼人看奇幻小說，除了金庸古龍梁羽生之類的武俠小說，還有
: 黃易莫仁羅森等新派小說以外，對奇幻作品有興趣的人大概就只能看遊
: 戲攻略了（考古一下，當年有幾個攻略作者如YMJ之類的，寫得真的好
: 到像小說一樣，甚至還有愛恨情仇....）
: 而在國內想要推廣奇幻文學作品的當時應該有兩個派系。一個是英文很
: 強的灰鷹爵士 (http://tinyurl.com/5mwpug) 跟某些Fantasy討論區的
: 朋友們。他們認為要讀就要讀原汁原味，不應該讀翻譯本。所以很努力
: 的聯繫國內外的書商，想盡辦法讓國內的一些書局能夠進口更多的原文
: 書，也在網路上很努力的寫介紹文，讓國內的新手讀者能夠從介紹文中
: 找到自己可能有興趣的作品。

看到這篇有點錯愕，我怎麼不記得有說過認為要讀就要讀原文，不應該讀
翻譯本這種話？當年讀原文正是因為國內根本沒有翻譯本（龍槍是第一套
打著「奇幻小說」出版的中譯本，但也僅限於同好圈內，真正要大紅還是
要「哈利波特」出來以後），所以只好多看多介紹咩。如果我認為不應該
讀翻譯本，那我也不會跟出版社合作選書、翻譯「冰與火之歌」吧？orz


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推 tontonplus:末日打臉文XDDDDDD                                    12/21 13:11
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推 Asucks:大推                                                     12/21 13:20
推 genius945:朝聖!                                                 12/21 13:21
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推 shunchao:                                                       12/21 13:23
推 Rain0224:推 XDDDDDDDDDDDD                                       12/21 13:23
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推 alentek:果然只有大叔才能打大叔的臉!!                            12/21 13:24
推 comboblue:大神!!!!                                              12/21 13:26

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