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 作者  bravee (勇敢E)                                         看板  Gossiping 
 標題  [新聞] 倒垃圾先「刷卡」? 未來擬秤重收費                              
 時間  Thu Jun 27 10:44:46 2013                                               
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〔記者馮珮汶/台北報導〕

倒垃圾先放電子秤重機上?未來丟垃圾可能要「刷卡」付費!環保署擬推動垃圾秤重計費
,最快今年於雙北市先行試辦,在部分垃圾車新設秤重設備與悠遊卡付費機制,成效良好
的話將推行全台。

各縣市現行的垃圾清運費除了雙北以及台中石岡區採「隨袋徵收」外,大多縣市多採「隨
水費徵收」,各縣市收費2.9到4.5元不等。環保署長沈世宏表示,因為曾在日本看過秤重
計費垃圾車,刷卡付費可免去使用專用垃圾袋。另外他也指出台灣現行的垃圾收費皆不公
平。

初期實施可能採「雙軌」制,可選擇刷卡或使用專用垃圾袋。民眾未來先將垃圾放在電子
秤重機上,待金額顯示方可用悠遊卡付費,完成之後才能夠倒垃圾。環保署官員說,「已
評估過技術上沒問題」,目前已跟雙北市協商中,將挪出垃圾車裝機試跑,進行測試。

至於費率方面,官員表示費率未定,可能每公斤收5至8元不等,但基本上不會跟現有的收
費標準落差太大。但據報導實測結果,同一袋垃圾可能會多付一倍的價格。而餐廳及辦公
大樓的集中大型垃圾,多半委外處理,不會受新制影響。

隨袋徵收垃圾雖有減量,不過環保署官員表示還是有偽袋的稽查成本,專用垃圾袋也有進
焚化爐汙染等問題。但新制還沒上路,就惹來一堆民怨,要怎麼做好相關配套措施,政府
恐怕得好好思量。

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※ 編輯: bravee          來自: 60.250.51.166        (06/27 10:45)
→ terrybob:你突破盲人了                                           06/27 10:45
推 Lucifer125:等垃圾車就滿肚子火了 還要排隊稱重喔= =               06/27 10:46
→ sagarain:現在是吃飽太閒了是吧                                   06/27 10:46
→ armygame:倒垃圾要排隊秤重??這殺小                               06/27 10:46
噓 ianian45:那我看到日本官員作不好下台,你要嗎 糙                  06/27 10:46
→ glacialfire:那這樣一個收垃圾的點要停留多久啊?                   06/27 10:47
→ fastwolf2006:還推廣到全台咧 鄉下一堆空地亂倒垃圾誰理你         06/27 10:47
推 asstitle:我看只適合社區大樓吧 公寓哪來的空間秤重放置垃圾        06/27 10:47
→ hsunting2000:以後考進清潔隊員的要加班了 時間都浪費在秤重上      06/27 10:47
噓 PAPABEAR:要錢只會從小老百姓開刀                                 06/27 10:47
噓 aj46:爛政策 這樣垃圾車要停多久....後面全塞翻了                  06/27 10:47
→ glacialfire:一樣還是會有人車還沒停就用丟的 你收的到喔?          06/27 10:47
→ sagarain:以後垃圾就倒去桃園                                     06/27 10:47
噓 codcape:到底是哪個可恨的智障想出來的??!                      06/27 10:48
推 popsas01:…………政府窮成這樣?                                 06/27 10:48
→ shalomlee:靠北那這樣我要丟一個傳統電視不就很衰小                06/27 10:48
噓 qq2583692:拿去丟國小好了                                        06/27 10:48
推 chermany:前兩年加薪3%,還有18趴了,收垃圾費算小錢…            06/27 10:48
噓 osuki:想出來的人一定沒有自己追垃圾車倒垃圾過                    06/27 10:48
→ codcape:大概是住在大安區高級社區不食人間煙火的高級官員鬼才點子  06/27 10:49
→ cyh33:這哪個笨蛋想的?看他體重幾公斤,秤重計費把他給丟了          06/27 10:49
→ glacialfire:收那個錢還不夠你整治淡水河咧 有些人都跑去河邊丟     06/27 10:49
噓 Benjamin901:想出這種政策的人不是天才就是天生的蠢材              06/27 10:49
噓 PAPABEAR:現在提垃圾出來等車已經夠蠢了,還要搞這些               06/27 10:49
→ hsunting2000:收垃圾的都不是這些訂規則的人在收                   06/27 10:49
→ cyh33:下半年了吧 可能各單位要輪流出什麼創新點子啊,好績效評比啊  06/27 10:50
→ leonian:.............................................= =        06/27 10:50
→ maxsky:真正實行的話公園可能會變垃圾場                           06/27 10:50
→ cyh33:預算總是要消耗一下 委外研發一下計費功能.到時來的民眾反彈  06/27 10:50
噓 shalomlee:就是要讓悠遊卡公司賺囉                                06/27 10:50
→ cyh33:就暫緩實施.但是該單位的行政績效就拿到了 人家有做事啊!!!   06/27 10:51
→ howard878:笑了                                                  06/27 10:51
→ leonian:這政府真的瘋了                                          06/27 10:51
噓 WindowsXP:腦洞                                                  06/27 10:52
→ laechan:幹你媽的溜巴酒                                          06/27 10:52
推 zeze:日本那個我回過了 一般垃圾並沒有秤重                        06/27 10:52
→ fuxin999:難怪政府官員被罵不吃人間煙火                           06/27 10:52
噓 ianian45:那過年的時候怎麼辦?每一戶都清出1~200kg的垃圾秤到死    06/27 10:52
→ zeze:只有大型垃圾才要秤重                                       06/27 10:52
噓 vera0204:不愧是馬政府  連這種孬孬的事情 也想的到                06/27 10:52
→ sagarain:以後丟東西不用專用袋就不算垃圾 被罰在撿回來陳情        06/27 10:52
噓 codcape:官員瘋了,要一般人受害                                  06/27 10:53
噓 spanda0730:為求公平反而造成大眾不便,到時再高的道德水準也會崩   06/27 10:53
噓 miketk:不是都已經隨袋徵收了..金正靠北耶..                       06/27 10:54
→ spanda0730:盤,垃圾不落地政策就會完全失敗                       06/27 10:54
噓 hu6111:靠盃,桃園縣或宜蘭縣要被亂垃圾了                         06/27 10:54
→ hu6111:                       倒                                06/27 10:54
噓 darvipon:什麼鬼啊,日本根本沒有這樣子,虎爛                     06/27 10:55
噓 WLR:搶錢搶瘋了,把收垃圾當國道ETC喔,根本圖利悠遊卡廠商         06/27 10:55
噓 momogo11:神經病                                                 06/27 10:55
→ darvipon:只有回收大型傢具才要購買特別的貼紙                     06/27 10:56
噓 k2233604:鬼島 白癡政策                                          06/27 10:56
噓 kkillme:                                                        06/27 10:56
→ darvipon:請區公所的車子來載,別在虎爛了                         06/27 10:56
噓 jpg31415926:沒有考慮到執行面很困難嗎?智障政府                   06/27 10:56
推 vera0204:佩服莊先知  孬孬越來越孬了  哈哈                       06/27 10:56
噓 XBOX720:想錢想瘋了???????                                       06/27 10:57
噓 nightwing:真是蠢政策 以後窮人連垃圾都不能丟了 全部吞下去        06/27 10:57
→ WLR:每一戶多花個10秒鐘,延遲的時間要加開多少班次才收的完        06/27 10:57
噓 Insania:看來環保署吃得飯菜很豐盛喔 吃飽太閒搞這些五四三阿?     06/27 10:57
推 qlinyuhn:一堆自己便利就不分類糟蹋地球的自私人類                 06/27 10:57
推 sevenny:就是繼續加稅而已啊                                      06/27 10:57
推 mingin:回收賺的還不夠,這也要賺,寒酸國家,肥貓官員。           06/27 10:57
→ glacialfire:衍生問題:常常忘記帶卡 卡裡面沒錢 久了就得過且過    06/27 10:58
噓 zeze:哪裡寒酸了 最近不是要拿出900億來圖利廠商嗎                 06/27 10:58
噓 delmardidi:等著看大家亂丟垃圾吧 智障透頂                        06/27 10:58
噓 kobala:白癡嗎? 怎麼扣款? 怎麼用網路? 網路不會斷?                06/27 10:58
→ zeze:可以客訴嗎?? 這政策太白癡了                              06/27 10:58
→ kobala:刷卡是不用時間? 排隊刷卡丟垃圾不蠢嗎?                    06/27 10:58
→ nightwing:以後有洞塞洞 有水溝塞水溝 有土地埋垃圾的情形會出現    06/27 10:59
噓 jayhang:感覺好潮喔~悠遊卡耶!!                                   06/27 10:59
→ kobala:這種蠢官員可以請他下台一鞠躬嗎 不要上國際惹笑話          06/27 10:59
噓 vjuko:那環保署的人事費全部砍掉 薪水從徵收的錢計                 06/27 10:59
噓 Leaves827:垃圾帶不是以經收費了= =                               06/27 10:59
噓 ghgn:腦殘政府                                                   06/27 10:59
→ nightwing:甚至你會看到有人在空地自己燒垃圾 好日子不遠了         06/27 10:59
噓 Raphael666:.....這殺小                                          06/27 11:00
→ glacialfire:他是說會免去隨袋徵收                                06/27 11:00
噓 bala73:三小 廢物政府垃圾官員                                    06/27 11:00
噓 SlimeKnight:馬友們好餓喔 民眾快多吐點錢出來(打肚子              06/27 11:01
噓 andrew2429:專用垃圾袋就已經不錯用了!你還想怎樣!               06/27 11:01
噓 kobala:幹 你丟個垃圾是半小時 是不是白癡政策拉                   06/27 11:01
→ scores:公用垃圾桶會被塞爆                                       06/27 11:01
噓 morgan13:天龍人腦袋想的總是跟百姓不同                           06/27 11:02
噓 popose:到底還要忍受這些腦殘的神經病多久阿?                      06/27 11:02
噓 trtc:回zeze:我們瘋子政府會連你A雞蛋殼都稱重收費               06/27 11:02
噓 rucobe:樣一個點要收多久?要多腦殘才會想出這種辦法?               06/27 11:03
噓 iamgyfan:狗屎                                                   06/27 11:03
噓 whitezealman:推cyh33                                            06/27 11:03
噓 sikadear:幹你娘689最愛                                          06/27 11:04
噓 danieo:有時我真的懷疑官員真的活在台灣嗎                         06/27 11:04
推 taipeiliu:大學垃圾桶會爆喔                                      06/27 11:04
噓 joseph873:白癡鬼島                                              06/27 11:04
噓 meredith001:還好我沒住台北                                      06/27 11:04
噓 mark4664:以後倒垃圾要用搶的 不然要跟著垃圾車跑了 否則慢慢等     06/27 11:04
噓 organ63521:智障腦袋 糙                                          06/27 11:04
噓 SlimeKnight:活在台灣沒錯啊 但高官們成長環境跟平民又不同         06/27 11:05
噓 WLR:下雨天一堆人雨中排隊刷悠遊卡,袋子被雨淋變重還得多付錢      06/27 11:05
推 ahw12000:689選出來的                                            06/27 11:05
噓 cul287:倒垃圾還要找卡片喔 ̄▽ ̄|| 虧你想的出                    06/27 11:05
噓 swd1591596:智障                                                 06/27 11:05
→ organ63521:榦 以後垃圾都丟到 公共場所的垃圾捅了                 06/27 11:05
→ organ63521:我看 以後會不會有公共垃圾桶ZZZ                       06/27 11:06
噓 zeze:以後絕對水溝會變得很熱門 趕快去卡為吧                      06/27 11:06
噓 cblin0605:垃圾政府 想出這種智障政策                             06/27 11:06
噓 fish0713:689的選擇   幹                                         06/27 11:06
→ organ63521:可能地上 水溝 全部都是垃圾 讚                        06/27 11:06
→ SlimeKnight:視野視角完全不同 從高處俯瞰人民怎期待他將心比心     06/27 11:06
噓 Workforme:白痴 幹 專門出搶錢政策                                06/27 11:07
噓 dudeok:吸油水車來囉                                             06/27 11:07
噓 popose:這算圖利悠遊卡公司嗎??                                   06/27 11:08
噓 pppwalker:靠北邊走咧                                            06/27 11:08
噓 MewGirl:以後量體重算薪水好了                                    06/27 11:09
噓 td770715:完全就是爽到悠遊卡公司,以前垃圾袋要收費就夠白癡了     06/27 11:09
推 neosu:環保署長請您站上來秤一秤......                            06/27 11:09
噓 z02852001:幹                                                    06/27 11:09
→ IndianF4:他媽的卡臭臭的                                         06/27 11:09
噓 XBOX720:以後倒垃圾也是奢侈的活動之一嗎???                       06/27 11:09
噓 akiue:世界首創 領先全球                                         06/27 11:10
→ XBOX720:馬的垃圾車還不是用我們稅金買的 現在要倒垃圾還要錢?????  06/27 11:10
噓 tokyoto:既然要秤重收錢 那清潔隊應該上樓收吧 就像收舊報紙的一樣  06/27 11:10
→ victor777:沒幾年可A了,要A要快~                                 06/27 11:12
噓 xx60824xx:智障喔                                                06/27 11:13
噓 lingling0000:幹快執行吧 要到地獄就一次到底吧 慢慢折磨太痛苦     06/27 11:13
噓 pooznn:想出這方法的公務員真的是...去吃屎吧!!!                   06/27 11:13
噓 soj:哈哈 你看看你 這麼蠢也可以想得出來                          06/27 11:14
噓 Zsanou:689怎選出這腦殘政府 ………                               06/27 11:15
→ soj:要不要申請專利?                                            06/27 11:15
噓 mark4664:以前隨水費大家拿水費單繳一繳就算了 後來要買貴死人垃圾  06/27 11:16
噓 mothforever:收錢可以啊 把秤子背來家門口秤順便收垃圾吧           06/27 11:16
噓 waijr:為什麼管理我們國家都人都是笨蛋 那要排隊多久啊?            06/27 11:17
噓 pig726:腦殘想出來的嗎 沒藥醫了                                  06/27 11:17
→ mark4664:袋大家也認了 現在當場收錢 你看那些婆媽會不會當場抓狂   06/27 11:17
噓 molinawang:請水母上去量                                         06/27 11:18
噓 olddadwind:                                                     06/27 11:18
噓 w00780539:........                                              06/27 11:19
噓 mark4664:講難聽點就是變相加稅 貪到連垃圾錢都要貪                06/27 11:19
噓 keny:垃圾車要變慢了                                             06/27 11:20
噓 wowcowshm:幹低能                                                06/27 11:20
噓 simga:北七喔~~信不信到時滿街都亂丟垃圾~~                        06/27 11:21
推 tel1255:有種就讓垃圾車人員帶槍,不然大家一丟就跑看你怎l抓      06/27 11:21
噓 waijr:淦他馬 那我不會用小貨卡直接再去郊區丟掉 那麼麻煩          06/27 11:22
噓 h2owaters:刷你媽                                                06/27 11:24
噓 iamcute:那個白痴想的                                            06/27 11:24
噓 pray7th:                                                        06/27 11:25
→ ching620:專用垃圾袋也有進焚化爐汙染等問題...那讓民眾隨意        06/27 11:26
噓 qwaszx012:三小阿                                                06/27 11:26
→ ching620:拿其他塑膠袋裝垃圾去稱重丟就不會有汙染問題了嗎?        06/27 11:26
噓 iamgyfan:不能忍                                                 06/27 11:26
→ ching620:這官員真的是腦殘了吧!                                  06/27 11:27
噓 ArSaBuLu:想出這個餿主意的生活白粗到底有沒有親自倒過垃圾!?       06/27 11:31
噓 saile60391:看也知道誰想的                                       06/27 11:32
→ bkebke:當年也有個天才說不能用塑膠袋                             06/27 11:33
噓 SlimeKnight:白賊都會叫你塞車時拜年了 排隊民眾請打招呼增進感情   06/27 11:34
噓 mark4664:還有些婆媽習慣下午倒 夏天這種天氣 你要老人家在外面曬   06/27 11:34
→ tsming:(  ̄□ ̄)/喔~~喔喔~~喔喔~~喔喔~689                       06/27 11:34
→ winsonbob:路邊垃圾一定超多                                      06/27 11:35
→ malu829:排隊秤重~加上刷卡時間 以後一站大概要停一小時吧          06/27 11:35
噓 SlimeKnight:排隊時間長了感情厚了                                06/27 11:36
噓 sata0905:這啥毀 別傻了好嗎                                      06/27 11:36
→ mark4664:到中暑嗎 如果大家夏天都改成晚上到 你會看到街上開垃圾   06/27 11:36
→ mark4664:嘉年華會                                               06/27 11:36
噓 askey:你能白癡成這樣真是不簡單                                  06/27 11:38
噓 ianian45:還沒XX喔?缺錢也不是這樣搞得 肏你馬的馬宗痛            06/27 11:39
噓 ko2042002:幹這到底是三洨國家 倒垃圾也要錢啊?                    06/27 11:39
噓 hahn:塞你娘勒 袋子都收錢了 還要收倒垃圾費用                     06/27 11:41
噓 coollonger:官員們也去秤一下重量吧                               06/27 11:41
噓 f204137:你娘的刷卡                                              06/27 11:41
噓 aqwerty:鬼島垃圾太多了  只能出此下策                            06/27 11:42
→ f204137:要不要  倒個垃圾  順便打卡ㄚ                            06/27 11:42
→ aqwerty:一定要打卡的啊  不然排隊無聊                            06/27 11:42
推 madhate:推官員秤重量                                            06/27 11:42
推 tsaicy:以後做生意的垃圾量一定會爆增,公共場所垃圾量倍增.         06/27 11:42
→ tsaicy:先秤一下制定政測的腦袋有沒有重量                         06/27 11:43
噓 Same:這個政府真的沒有極限                                       06/27 11:43
噓 natuyuki:北爛                                                   06/27 11:43
→ tsaicy:這些官員有倒過垃圾嗎?                                    06/27 11:44
噓 yougottt:連倒垃圾都要排隊喔 如果忘記帶卡難道還要再扛回家==      06/27 11:44
→ potionx:能這麼製仗真不簡單...                                   06/27 11:45
→ etys:想這種腦包方法的來把垃圾吃光啊  順便幫人民省錢             06/27 11:45
噓 opces:2222222222222222222                                       06/27 11:46
噓 uisnegr:老是從百姓口錢撈錢 垃圾政府 自己也打包丟垃圾車好了      06/27 11:47
噓 jackerxx:幹 死要錢政府                                          06/27 11:47
噓 rofellosx:這甚麼白癡政策...你會看到一堆人排隊倒垃圾..           06/27 11:47
噓 mko00kimo:提這個政策的真是天才... 還是說要用這個來轉移焦點!!    06/27 11:47
噓 pierre6957:什麼都要用悠遊卡到底是分了多少錢                     06/27 11:48
噓 winterjoker:專用垃圾袋就已經擾民了還想怎樣啊?                   06/27 11:48
噓 starts:丟學校公園別人家就不用錢了                               06/27 11:48
噓 vi000246:白痴喔 丟垃圾也要收錢 以後大家都丟在總統府             06/27 11:48
→ rofellosx:專用垃圾袋還不構成擾民  畢竟沒垃圾袋還是要買..        06/27 11:49
→ rofellosx:這個就太扯了..                                        06/27 11:49
噓 sdisgood:政府亂花公帑 沒錢了就任意課徵稅收 景氣不好就亂印消費   06/27 11:49
推 yangnana:請那些官自己先站上去秤吧...我出錢!!                    06/27 11:50
噓 sa080691:擾民啊幹                                               06/27 11:50
→ rofellosx:現在政府都推出與對岸接軌 榨乾民眾荷包的爛政策..       06/27 11:51
→ rofellosx:未來也許會推出垃圾車可支援悠遊卡儲值服務              06/27 11:53
噓 evilvens:689最愛                                                06/27 11:53
噓 x80378:欠噓                                                     06/27 11:53
噓 sdisgood:亂印消費券 消費後產生的垃圾又把錢補回去 整個亂搞!      06/27 11:56
推 luming:頗ㄏ                                                     06/27 11:57
→ luming:那以後在後院一把火燒掉算了                               06/27 11:58
→ sdisgood:與其巧立名目課這種爛稅 不如對不垃圾分類者處以罰金      06/27 11:58
→ jorden:北七 浪費時間又擾民 倒個垃圾還要排隊 搞屁阿              06/27 12:00
噓 cosicosi:馬的 巧立名目挖人民錢 爛政府!                         06/27 12:02
推 aqwerty:公車上下站也沒花多少時間 多收錢 多派一台垃圾車解決了    06/27 12:03
→ madhate:官員的重量費我出,快去打包自己吧                        06/27 12:03
噓 a259526:爛政府                                                  06/27 12:03
噓 rei196:幹你娘                                                   06/27 12:05
噓 frends999:林北以後隨便找個沒人的地方一扔了事  還跟你秤重?       06/27 12:06
→ FirstAngel:到底那個蠢才想到的辦法啊,浪費大家時間在那邊秤重      06/27 12:06
噓 x0003:日本首相做不好就下台   台灣要不要也跟進?                  06/27 12:07
→ FirstAngel:光是塞車就飽了,秤重還比專用垃圾袋貴,是變相污錢?      06/27 12:07
推 lepidoptera:除了天龍國可以這樣搞 其他地區我看垃圾又要亂丟了..   06/27 12:08
推 kosuke:讚啦 優質天龍人們 喜迎都來不及了 只有魯蛇才會抱怨啦      06/27 12:09
噓 hikari22:幹你娘哪個智障選這啥爛政府.等垃圾車已經夠機吧了.還排   06/27 12:10
噓 jayway:這太扯了  哪個垃圾想出來的垃圾政策??                     06/27 12:10
→ hikari22:隊倒垃圾哩.學日本.人家做不好自殺切腹下台台灣要學嗎?    06/27 12:10
噓 assunny1012:應該以後直接到便利商店秤重刷卡 24小時不打烊         06/27 12:10
噓 industrialld:幹 想這個政策的應該下十八層地獄                    06/27 12:11
推 gtrzero:還好我沒住天龍國 真是高極天龍的政策~                    06/27 12:11
噓 ElvesDaniel:幹拎娘 他媽的鬼島                                   06/27 12:12
噓 luxifir:這到底誰想出來的                                        06/27 12:12
→ lhsieh:為表示對政策的支持,請依689得票比例選擇優先試辦地區       06/27 12:13
噓 PePePeace:很缺錢吼                                              06/27 12:14
噓 cazy328:幹妳娘的 沒地方可以挖錢了是不是 689不用負責嗎           06/27 12:14
推 gtrzero:已經選擇新北先辦了 KMT鐵票區 我想他們也沒反對的餘地     06/27 12:17
噓 sali921:變相加稅  還浪費人民時間成本   垃圾政府                 06/27 12:18
噓 z02852001:XX                                                    06/27 12:19
推 l63club:路邊垃圾桶要炸裂了                                      06/27 12:19
推 carrl:天龍人優惠政策                                            06/27 12:20
噓 lahiboy:只有台北?這個政策是看不起高雄人?還是台中人?花東人?  06/27 12:21
噓 yongqing:政腐到底多缺錢                                         06/27 12:21
噓 KG29911069:...........                                          06/27 12:24
推 mapple9:日本稱重有普及化嗎 智障                                 06/27 12:27
→ parkerlived:●大有為政腐 已經超越滿清的症績了●                 06/27 12:30
推 MacOSX10:以後可能會滿山滿谷都是垃圾                             06/27 12:31
噓 longman999:是哪個天才想出來的奇招                               06/27 12:32
噓 awesomeSS66:治國沒半步                                          06/27 12:33
→ arainyday:設機器就要編預算~然後有承包商~~然後有社區找清潔公司   06/27 12:33
→ gca00631:這麼喜歡悠悠卡?以後官員的薪水都直接用儲值的吧          06/27 12:33
→ arainyday:總之不是試水溫~就是編預算給承包商賺~然後人民買單!!!!  06/27 12:34
噓 Refauth:這除了台北市市民水準較高以外其他縣市都做不到吧?搞屁啊  06/27 12:39
噓 redwing875:智障                                                 06/27 12:40
噓 final00095:智障政策                                             06/27 12:40
推 kilmo:支持雙北辦理這個政策,政府要打房啊,大家還不明白他的苦心  06/27 12:41
→ eemail:就水費多收一點就好了...水費真的太便宜了                  06/27 12:42
噓 dim0911:先秤秤你們自己是幾斤重的垃圾 國家快被這群狗弄亡了       06/27 12:45
噓 shay828:這不是普通的低能阿                                      06/27 12:50
噓 stvken:他馬的智障                                               06/27 12:52
噓 fantasylee:掯 做辦公室的人想出來的爛方法                        06/27 12:56
噓 FrankB:倒個垃圾也要搶錢                                         06/27 12:58
噓 miabcd199:神經病                                                06/27 13:00
噓 ppabner:真是奇葩,經濟搞不好就算了,還要扯民生後腿......        06/27 13:04
→ gnew:頗ㄏ的政策                                                 06/27 13:04
噓 super5000:=  =                                                  06/27 13:05
噓 billybbb:再辦夢想家阿,2E隨便花現在只好亂收費                    06/27 13:11
噓 heaphy:...想出這種神奇政策的 一定沒倒過垃圾= =                  06/27 13:14


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