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 標題  [新聞] 戴勝益:借不到500萬別創業!                                     
 時間  Wed Jul 24 22:03:28 2013                                               
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【台灣醒報╱記者黃文瑜╱台北報導】          2013.07.24 09:06 pm

「年輕人創業,沒借到500萬千萬別創業!」戴勝益在《十座大山 十大決策》新書發表會
上,講述自己創業的心路歷程,也建議創業的最好時機,是35到45歲之間。

戴勝益給想創業的年輕人三個建議:第一,能夠在無抵押品的狀況下,向你的朋友借到
500萬,因為這樣代表你是個值得信任的人,人緣也夠好;再者,要去探聽找到好的加盟
主,單打獨鬥的成功率只有10%,但加盟的成功率可以達到70%。最後適合創業的年齡是35
到40歲之間,因為太年輕社會經驗不夠,到50歲以後又覺得時不我與。

談起自己創業的經驗,戴勝益表示,自己失敗了10次才成功,大部分的創業者失敗一次後
會失去一半的財產;失敗第二次就會發誓再也不創業。但他失敗六次後仍繼續創業的原因
是欠了8000萬,已經沒有回頭路。他說,要是第10次王品沒成功,他仍會繼續創業20、30
次,直到成功為止。

從家族企業出來創業的戴勝益,那時候沒從家裡拿半毛錢,卻向66個朋友借了1億6000萬
,開始創業,他自豪的說,能借到這麼多錢是因為平時有經營人脈,並且讓人信任。不過
這些錢最後還是花完了。

最終走投無路之時,戴勝益想起老婆娘家在南投山區,有一塊種玉荷包的地,可以貸900
萬元,當時岳母只說,依照傳統,土地是要給3個兒子,但她還是把土地借給他,告訴他
日後再還。

但是他花錢很快,一個星期就把900萬花完了,不得已,只好讓太太回家向岳母借600萬私
房錢,這筆錢岳母只告訴過戴勝益的太太,連老公和兒子都不知道,竟然借給戴勝益。這
件事讓戴勝益很感恩,他創業成功後,就立即把1500萬還給岳母,至今這份恩情,仍讓他
沒齒難忘。


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錢是信用交易的媒介.錢只是數字,鈔票就只是一小張紙;錢的用途是為商(物)品定價
計價,方便作交易而已.所以錢本身無任何的價值,被定價(交易)的商(物)品才有價值

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噓 linwahaha:學長,請容許我噓你。                                  07/24 22:39
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推 okdhhurfy97:平均一個借250萬。。 上一個才說賺太少不用存錢的!    07/24 22:42
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噓 kshtainan:                                                      07/24 22:44
噓 Eric0204:樓上 借個500萬如何?                                    07/24 22:44
噓 ttnakafzcm:無言                                                 07/24 22:45
→ sellgd:"借到500萬代表你是個值得信任的人" 果然是射手座的邏輯     07/24 22:45
推 ryrp:想知道他到底還多少給朋友                                   07/24 22:46
→ eddy1221:如果賠光了怎麼辦                                       07/24 22:46
噓 hate9527:ㄏㄏ                                                   07/24 22:46
噓 SteveDX:                        殺小啦  07/24 22:47
噓 winterjoker:我也不想要去借500萬來創業好嘛!你以為那麼好賺喔?     07/24 22:47
噓 Zeroyeu:大家都知道了吧~   這,就叫做,廢物                      07/24 22:47
噓 Oxhorn:借得到五百萬就可以創業嗎  頗喝                           07/24 22:48
噓 ljr:戴必噓                                                      07/24 22:52
噓 wunei:                                                          07/24 22:52
噓 eflove43:嘿啦~用說的錢就會從天上掉下來啦                        07/24 22:53
噓 sakubo:你還有臉出來講這些543啊 怠剩液                           07/24 22:54
噓 jeffdark:靠                                                     07/24 22:56
噓 kakami:鬼島盡是這些得了便宜還賣乖的爛貨老人                     07/24 22:56
噓 muscleless:任何人有500萬台幣,都可以參加靠爸創業大賽            07/24 22:58
推 IRPT001:如果他失敗了~那66個人也蠻慘的                           07/24 22:59
→ dio112400:煩死了整天一直吵                                      07/24 23:06
噓 eatingshaw:除了幹不知道還能說什麼,王品很難吃。                 07/24 23:06
噓 cbate:關鍵字:老婆娘家可以貸款                                  07/24 23:07
噓 a31670323:過太爽                                                07/24 23:09
噓 danieo:..                                                       07/24 23:09
噓 phsu02:神經病..                                                 07/24 23:09
推 upflying:wings有朋友寫一份創業BP跟我借1千萬,看完就被我打槍了   07/24 23:11
噓 Biedermeier:可以拒吃王品嗎?我想看他再借錢的樣子                07/24 23:12
噓 dandelion76:他嘴巴只吐得出借錢而已                              07/24 23:14
噓 brokenback3:XD                                                  07/24 23:15
噓 eflove43:借錢又敗光錢還好意思拿出來說嘴?!這人腦袋裝啥阿?        07/24 23:16
噓 rettttt5:失敗了出國深造,戴某人可不負責喔~                      07/24 23:16
噓 odsan:...                                                       07/24 23:18
噓 yamapidears:夠了沒阿                                            07/24 23:20
噓 rock0747:戴必噓                                                 07/24 23:25
噓 a31670323:從他上次這樣講之後就不吃王品系列了                    07/24 23:26
噓 onetear:花別人的錢而成功可以當作借鑒的話 詐欺犯實行的很確實     07/24 23:27
噓 LucAngel:戴:不是靠爸靠母(岳母)族別創業                         07/24 23:28
推 fred10047:那66個哪會慘 他爸多的是錢幫他還                       07/24 23:37
噓 onetear:任何人有兩千五百萬都可以參加賭神大賽 賭神只有一個其他   07/24 23:39
噓 hokksapp:我是要去哪裡借500萬                                    07/24 23:39
→ onetear:的都是窮神拉                                            07/24 23:40
噓 Fiendyux:借不到眼紅噓                                           07/24 23:43
噓 Drexler:一直失敗下去的話不就是別人一直被你騙錢?                 07/24 23:44
噓 Hashosho:靠...                                                  07/24 23:44
噓 BigLarry:這廢物沒成功  根本是個金光黨啃老族                     07/24 23:46
噓 Asucks:戴勝益必噓 徐旭東必噓 趙騰雄必噓 王雪紅必噓 嚴凱泰必噓   07/25 00:07
噓 features:不噓對不起自己                                         07/25 00:09
→ fateorz:純就po文內容來看 好像就是靠 借錢 借錢 再借錢而已        07/25 00:17
噓 sinohara:亡品倒店吧                                             07/25 00:28
噓 yor:.............                                               07/25 00:28
噓 MirageAngel:<(≠‵皿′)=o|▅▆▇◤<(≠‵皿′)=o|▅▆▇◤肏瘸瘤  07/25 00:30
噓 mmzznnxxbbcc:都你在說 那借不到五百萬 月薪又沒五萬的呢 去死?     07/25 00:50
噓 bruce7010:必噓                                                  07/25 01:02
噓 Tamama56:又不是每個家長都是有錢人                               07/25 01:14
噓 tdkblur:講話真的很矛盾的一個富二 別得了便宜整天賣乖....= =      07/25 01:21
噓 eric307:沒有富爸爸別創業                                        07/25 01:21
噓 Acelover:阿不就很厲害                                           07/25 01:54
噓 ding0725:廢物 看到一次噓一次                                   07/25 01:58
噓 CruxLaelaps:幹 這書會賣????? 應改為:  借不到500萬別出書啦笨蛋   07/25 02:11
噓 taurus512:35~40歲創業不成功所有壓力都來 不自殺都難              07/25 02:12
噓 goshfju:ㄏㄏㄏ 我只看到他都在靠爸                               07/25 02:13
推 bing:他不只靠爸,還靠丈母娘!                                    07/25 02:19
→ DongRaeGu:加盟也叫創業喔?哪門子邏輯                            07/25 02:26
噓 train:0                                                         07/25 02:33
噓 ppc:借!1500w只還1500w 一點感恩心都沒                            07/25 02:34
噓 herryhsueh:別拿自己的經驗來說 你不過是巧合中的一個而已          07/25 02:34
噓 cloud72426:時代不同了                                           07/25 02:43
噓 keiwei520:靠 那你如果 600w 還是花光呢                           07/25 02:46
噓 stella323:又在吠了                                              07/25 02:58
噓 awaro:憑什麼你說了算?                                           07/25 03:16
噓 fluterway:                                                      07/25 03:36
→ unrealfox:跟社會脫節別亂發言                                    07/25 03:46
噓 HTGOD:不會靠自己存錢 廢                                         07/25 04:46
噓 chiz2:                                                          07/25 05:51
噓 Sugiros:靠妖   某靠爸族借到上億元創業                           07/25 08:47
噓 chasher:500萬連慈善樸克王大賽都參加不了                         07/25 08:50
推 shin30:幹你媽,沒有有錢老爸誰要借你,說穿了還不是靠家裡,操     07/25 08:53
噓 faelone:欠了八千萬還借的到錢,果然爸爸夠力                      07/25 09:07
噓 tkhunter:幹,靠爸還敢說嘴                                       07/25 09:45
噓 TINBING:1500萬!?沒還利息哦!?                                    07/25 09:45
噓 soj:哈哈,好蠢                                                  07/25 09:45
噓 drwei:岳母這麼挺你  成功了竟然沒有還雙倍                        07/25 10:33
噓 choko:哪來那麼多有錢的朋友??                                    07/25 10:37
噓 kobala:不過就是生下來的種好一點 自以為有資格出來說教?           07/25 10:39
噓 longman999:靠爸就惦惦 在那邊講一堆好像是過來人 資格不符啦 靠爸  07/25 10:48
噓 b10011054:可以不要出來亂嗎                                      07/25 11:00
噓 nightmuse:盡說些廢話                                            07/25 11:09
噓 kahn30120:你他妹的要不是家裡有錢,創業的第三次就被砍死了        07/25 11:13
噓 iamhazard:個人覺得蠻無恥的                                      07/25 11:14
噓 tompi:如今各位知道這位"企業家"如何成功了嗎? 多少人會選擇燒炭。  07/25 11:16
噓 wellkom:這篇怎麼有好臭的味道???  啊,有臭人,幹你娘快走         07/25 11:16
→ tompi:還自豪呢~~~ 搖頭                                          07/25 11:16
噓 wellkom:這個借錢王就封他為 Bill戴吧,去坐在比爾陳旁邊謝謝       07/25 11:18
噓 jb8673194:想到他哥戴勝通,就可以發個做夢文了...兩個都可笑       07/25 11:19
推 serendipity:勵志∼                                              07/25 11:21
噓 a8989332:我來幫補XX                                             07/25 11:26
噓 PoloHuang:賣雞排要500萬嗎                                       07/25 11:28
噓 WishIsland:  無恥臉皮厚的人,最容易成功                         07/25 11:40
噓 kobala:可恥 居然窮到向娘家身手要錢 還說創業成功 頗喝            07/25 11:48
噓 squallpu:幹!這故事是要講幾遍,我覺得他真的好謙虛~~~~噓~~~       07/25 11:52
噓 fantasychiu:真痢痔                                              07/25 11:54
噓 devil1018:喔                                                    07/25 12:00
噓 rofellosx:..                                                    07/25 12:04
噓 airlow:閉嘴,向別人借錢很了不起嗎                               07/25 12:10
噓 XD456:拒吃王品啦~                                               07/25 12:10
噓 eckermann:有病...                                               07/25 13:00
噓 Vassili242:廢話 有個有錢老爸罩失敗1000次 10000次有啥問題        07/25 13:15
噓 likehate:幹你媽鬼島老闆嘴臉                                     07/25 13:34
噓 emcat:今天他家族如果只是一般家庭,我看誰去借他那麼多錢,唬誰?   07/25 13:37
→ newstarisme:戴勝益運好 家庭背景好 確無法將心比心                07/25 13:43
→ newstarisme:不要以為自己成功就代表講的都對的                    07/25 13:43
→ wonderverge:借到岳母家的土地去了…平民百姓誰敢做這種事啊= =     07/25 13:48
噓 a71627192314:拜託先借我1500萬...                                07/25 13:54
噓 p0q:借的到一億六千萬的人 還需要聽你屁這些嗎?                   07/25 14:28
噓 monkiki1007:這傢伙真是越來越嘴了                                07/25 16:14
噓 sp123008:屁話一堆                                               07/25 16:37
→ scores:一朝得志語無倫次                                         07/25 17:57
→ scores:能借那麼多錢是別人看到可以跟你家裡討 有擔保              07/25 17:58
噓 yoshiringo:閉嘴                                                 07/25 18:00
噓 Loack:X的~跟自己人借的就不用給利息了嗎...900+600=1500算數真好~  07/25 19:54
→ Loack:有沒有良心阿...感恩都是嘴上說說                           07/25 19:54
噓 ohiyohuang:先借我個500萬來創業我就推                            07/25 22:31
噓 kalaha:不下水母!!                                               07/26 01:09
噓 nojva:你這個靠爸族兼媽寶可以閉嘴嗎!!!!!!!                       07/26 01:32


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